Kim Titchener, the founder of bearsafety.com, discusses how humans can stay safe in bear habitat, while Erika Zambello (me!) visits Washington, D.C., and tracks down some of Thomas Moran’s famed paintings of national parks. In his commentary, host Kurt Repanshek suggests that the National Park Service be pulled out of the Interior Department and set up as a freestanding agency.

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